M = Me
S = Salty Person
O = Other Salty Person
R = Reasonable Person

S - Mar sucks and the mountains of new content are useless.
M - That's picky.
S - Picky?!
O - Picky?!
M - I like the new stuff.
S - It's useless and nobody will ever use it.
M - I use it.
O - Why?
M - Muffler helps control fire rate and bursts of low-capacity guns.
S - It makes them worse.
M - Not to me.
S - Always the same argument with you people.
M - And?
R - Why does it matter?
O - HE'S WRONG.
M - How am I wrong for my taste in customization?
S - IT MAKES THE GUN WORSE.
M - Not for me.
S - DuRrR nOt FoR mE hUrRr.
M - Impersonate me harder, McDaddy.
S - What are you smoking?
R - Dude, drop it.
O - HE'S STUPID.
M - Thanks, you too.
S - Liking something doesn't make it good!
M - Doesn't make it good to you, but it's still good to me.
S - Everyone who likes this crap uses that argument!!
M - Does that make them wrong?
S - Yes!!!
M - How?

votekicked

I've never seen anyone so triggered over someone else's enjoyment of content.

"To hack is to admit that you are an unskilled waste of a server slot. Get good or get votekicked."

The SPAS-12 is a hybrid semi-auto and pump-action shotgun, and I feel like this should be simulated in PF. It's a pretty simple idea; the SPAS-12 would gain that alternate pump-action mode. Switching to it reduces its fire rate, but improves recoil recovery and hip-fire accuracy.

Just annoying when I want to edit a more complex post only for it to tell me "durrr… you ran out of time to do dat fam..."

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If you say so.

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In my mind, this is the ideal class setup in any FPS game (weapon classes would vary with the time period, but we're obviously focused on modern day).

Granted, this will only really matter when equipment is finally implemented after several eternities.

There are also two new weapon categories discussed here. I'll start with the classes themselves:

Assault
Primary - Assault Rifles, Shotguns, Carbines, Scout Rifles
Equipment - Launchers, Light (thrown) C4, Timed Charges, Ballistic Shield

Medic
Primary - SLRs, Carbines, Scout Rifles
Equipment - Medical Bag, First Aid Kits, Defibrillators, Teammate Buffs (drugz)

Support
Primary - LMGs, Battle Rifles, Carbines, Scout Rifles
Equipment - Ammo Packs, Mortars, Bangalore Torpedoes, RC Explosive, Grappling Hook Launcher

Engineer
Primary - SMGs, Carbines, Scout Rifles
Equipment - Deployable Cover, Heavy (placed) C4, Mines, MP-APS, Spawn Beacon

Recon
Primary - Sniper Rifles, DMRs, Carbines, Scout Rifles
Equipment - Spotting Optics, Motion Sensors, Decoys, Jammers, Recon Drones, Claymores, Crossbow

Regarding the new weapon categories:

SLRs
Self-Loading Rifles. Exclusive to the Medic class, these are any semi-automatic rifles not specifically labeled as DMRs or Sniper Rifles, such as civilian versions of ARs and BRs like the Colt AR-15 and SCAR-17S and non-tactical long rifles like the L1A1, M1 Garand, etc. This would be the new home of the SL-8. SLRs typically have faster rates of fire than DMRs thanks to their internal components being tuned to a more aggressive role instead of pinpoint accuracy (although they're still very accurate weapons if the user has good trigger discipline).

Scout Rifles
More of a subcategory of Carbines than anything, Scout Rifles are all-class single-action or double-action (revolver) rifles with a length of 40 inches or less, placing their balancing somewhere between Sniper Rifles and DMRs. This would be the new home of the Steyr Scout, Henry 45-70, Jury, KAC SRR, and 1858 Carbine. It also leaves plenty of room for things like Winchester Carbines, the Mosin Carbine, etc.

Probably another unpopular opinion of mine, but meh.

Just a random discussion point I have. There are story genres out there that have been milked dry and others with udders on the verge of bursting... that was an awful metaphor, but you get what I'm trying to convey.

Let's start with overdone genres:

Zombie Apocalypse
For crying out loud, this has been done to death, yet it keeps clawing itself back up just like the convenient antagonists it portrays. Every variation of zombie, every character type, every scenario, pretty much nothing original left.

Alien Invasion
Whether it be apocalyptic or just an excuse for a mysterious antagonist (extraterrestrial, interdimensional, or otherwise), this is also a genre that's just dried out at this point. On the rare occasion, there's a unique scenario, like in Battle of Los Angeles where modern combat tech is pitted against extraterrestrial drone tech on a more-or-less even playing field, or even Avatar where humans are the alien invaders against a primitive species. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be enough creative juice flowing through this category of fiction.

Superheroes
Super people beating up other super people with no regard for collateral damage and giving everyone else an inferiority complex. Been there, done that. Moving on.

There are a few exceptions; things that have been going on forever yet always manage to get an original twist. One good example:

Godzilla Movies
Finally getting a big-budget makeover with a unique setting while staying true to their original content. Appeals to nostalgia are worked in perfectly without dominating the plot.

One of the biggest things that long-running franchises have been falling victim to is equating originality to enjoyability. This is not always the case; you can have a completely original plot or arc for the franchise that undermines everything people enjoy about the franchise or tries to appeal to a small number of people that don't even invest in the franchise to begin with (take SJWs for example). Star Wars is one of the biggest victims of this, along with Doctor Who, Marvel Comics, and other unfortunate classics.

Now for the genres that haven't been explored enough:

Steampunk
Essentially a Victorian Era setting with a heavily industrialized and sometimes mildly futuristic twist, this is by far one of my favorite genres, in a tie with Dieselpunk for first place. Technology in this genre takes a lot of inspiration from Leonardo da Vinci's concept sketches, such as corkscrew propulsion, ornithopters, volley guns, and airship-scale hot air balloons. I'm amazed we don't have a proper multiplayer FPS in this genre yet (Guns of Icarus kind of counts, I guess, but it's less of an FPS and more of a ship crew simulator).

Dieselpunk
A similar concept to Steampunk, but focused on the Industrial and Modern Eras with similar hyper-industrialized or futuristic aspects. In many cases, this genre is based on how people in these eras envisioned the future, most notably in comic books from those decades. The movies Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow and Captain America: The First Avenger are good examples of Dieselpunk settings. Iron Harvest is a good example of a Dieselpunk RTS game.

Deep Sea Adventure
To be fair, the Aquaman movie explored this genre a bit, but it was still primarily a superhero movie. Atlantis: The Lost Empire combined a little bit of this with a bit of Dieselpunk, but they weren't the dominant themes. Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea was a 1960s sci-fi series in this genre, but there hasn't been much else besides the Subnautica game franchise and a few horror movies.

I do wish we had a separate "Magazine" section in customization.

Can't forget the barrel shroud as an attachment. It could also increase the fire rate to its original unmitigated 1500rpm.

After throwing my own OCD around, I finally came to a few conclusions about weapon and class categorization in PF. However, my OCD is still in play here...

It's always gotten on my nerves how weapons are so badly categorized. Rifles can be turned into Carbines despite not being in the category or already having their shorter counterparts in it, other Carbines are tossed into the PDW category (joined recently by the Krinkov), BRs can be turned into ARs within the same category, etc.

Before, I was begging Stylis to move weapons to their proper categories as they got more and more inconsistent, to which I received quite a bit of vague criticism and a general "shut up and play the game, you entitled child" response from one dev in particular who I will never let live it down.

So, I rethought my own OCD. I decided that, since the classes in PF are pointless and I'm convinced we'll never get equipment (even if we do, I don't think it'll be enough to divide between class roles, especially since vehicles aren't a thing in PF), just categorize weapons by make and model. For example:

MP5

• MP5
• MP5K
• MP5SD
• MP5/10
• MP10

AK-12 Prototype (named such in the hopes that the newer army-adopted AK-12 models will be added)

• AK-12 (P)
• AKU-12
• AK-12C
• RPK-12
• AK-12 BR
• DBV-12

And so on. Simple, accurate, fits nicely in my explosive OCD.

Darkman_Bree

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KommandoKazumi
True, but I imagine this would outperform even those. AP as an attachment sacrifices a lot of damage and range. You'd be better off running standard or HP on those. HP on a MAC-n-cheese is brutal on its own but also helps keep the damage high when using the Sionics suppressor (and with the Sionics getting a long-barrel buff, it'll be even better).

Darkman_Bree
Not quiiite small enough.

KommandoKazumi
Armor-piercing PDW ammo, meaning amazing velocity and penetration for such a dinky little gun.

The more a gun is requested, the longer it takes them to add it, at least in my experience...

Similarities to other rifles be darned. I need more BRs.

Just that fire rate alone makes this thing a beast, though I get the feeling the BR variant would have a slower rate of fire compared to its AR counterpart.

moist nugget boi
Splash potion grenade.

There's the Noreen BN36. It's a 30-06 AR-15.
https://www.scopelist.com/Images/noreen/Noreen-BN36-LRA.JPG

Corgerus

ERROR
The concept "too many AR-15s" does not compute. Rebooting brain...

Imperius
Better than a tank with an Australian dong.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0_Z5ecX4AET5Bo.jpg