This test place news article will be a smaller one so we atleast have one in the new forums.
#33 will be made once there's more new content.

Mall Revamp

Mall has been revamped by the community, It's been entirely remade from scratch!

Unfortunately this new site's filesize limit is really small, and Imgur pictures do not get uploaded, So click the link below for all of Mall Revamp's pictures.

https://imgur.com/a/0v7OJBe

The return of Sight Reticle Coloring.

Sight coloring has returned, It works the same as before, Get 10 kills while you have an optic equipped on your weapon and you will unlock reticle coloring, where you can give your sight reticle any color you want with RGB sliders.

Unfortunately, this does not work on default scopes, default iron sights and canted sights.

The ammo catagory:

Added new attachment catagory: Ammo

• Armor Piercing, Hollow Point, Flechette, Birdshot and Slugs have been moved to that.
• Available on Primaries and Secondaries.
• Judge can now use Flechette, Birdshot and Slugs.
  • Judge with Flechette has a bug(?) that gives it 8 pellets instead of 4, Making it a super effective shotgun.
  • Judge with Birdshot is very deadly up close.
  • Judge with Slugs deal more damage than the Executioner.
• SFG 50 can no longer use Armor Piercing or Hollow Point.
• Birdshot now decreases both max and min damage. (Already in the main game, Shadow nerf)
  • Max damage range however is slightly increased.
• Executioner can now use AP and HP.

Want to play the new Mall Revamp and Reticle Colors?
Join the Test Place!

https://www.roblox.com/games/299659045/test-place

Alright, so this suggestion will help solve 3 things:

• People asking for more attention with weapons for low ranks.
• People wanting to try out X gun while being too low ranked or have no credits.
• Some guns being ignored.

I present you:

Gun of the Day!

It's very simple, Every day a random gun from the game will be selected to be the Gun of the Day!
This gun for an entire day will get the following things:

• The gun is free to use for everyone!
  • Anyone who does not own this gun by the end of the day will automatically unequip it.
  • The gun tooltip in the UI is colored green if it's the Gun of the Day.
• A 25 XP bonus kill reward for making a kill with the Gun of the Day.
• Players that equip the Gun of the Day but do not actually own them cannot unlock skins or buy attachments for it, They can only run it stock.

Litteraly EVERY gun can become Gun of the Day, EVERY GUN! No melee's or grenades though.

Yes, this suggestion has some cons, such as if a very annoying gun is selected as Gun of the Day (BFG 50, AA-12, MG3KWS,...) but this way the low ranks actually have a chance to give high rank guns a try for a day + Underused weapons actually have a chance to shine in battle.

So, what do you guys think of this?

At last, after maybe over a year, The HK51B has finally hit the test place!
And the big mystery has been solved, What catagory was the HK51B gonna be in? LMG's? PDW's? Grenades? No! It's Carbines!

Test place update date: 26/01/2020

HK51B

Weapon skin zones: Available
Weapon sounds: https://youtu.be/VSHDjZB295I

Weapon screenshots:
Click here!

HK51B stats:

Extra notes about the HK51B:

• Using Hollow Point, you can make it 2-hit anywhere up close, However it makes long range damage a 5-hit anywhere.

Extra discovered things:

• New Muzzle Booster barrel attachment.
  • (+) Increases RPM by 8%.
  • (-) Increases recoil.
  • (-) Decreases suppression.
• Contracts are being worked on by Lito.
• New voting system being worked on by Lito.
• C7A2 is still dev-only.
• New attachment catagory: Ammo
  • The new home of Armor Piercing, Hollow Point, Flechette, Birdshot and Slugs!
• Various new maps such as Labatory, 2 Crane Site Revamp versions.
• Test place map updates on Inferno, Stilla Residence,...

Click here to play the Test Place!

NayNayWhip Back in my day, we cuddled together on the hill of the dark highway lot while it rained grenades.
We had to take cover or the enemy forces would rain us with BFG BT's, FAMAS or Honey Badgers in the bitter cold weather of the revamped crane site.
But worst of all... we had no FAL's...
I barely made it out alive.

Death UI:

Killed by Lightning.
Gun: Lightning
Attachments:

• None
• None
• None
• Ballistics Tracker
• None

So I heard Mar are going to drop the update?

Well makes sense, July 4th is near.
But something is still bothering me, something I thought would get looked into again, but still hasn't happened yet:

Some of all of those new attachments require WAY too many kills.

This will cause HUGE grinding for people who don't spend credits on attachments, Imagine getting 10,000 kills on every gun for those new attachments, I haven't even reached 1,000 on every gun yet and I'm Rank 260.
And for those who spend credits on attachments, They will be INSANELY expensive. 200 kills + the amount of kills you are away from unlocking the attachment right? Well, Then those 10,000 kill attachments will cost 10,200 credits for just ONE attachment!
You have all of those fun new gun conversion attachments, which are locked out with very expensive prices which means they will likely almost never be used.

You see? It's way too much, This needs to be looked into again.

I believe the max for serious attachments should be 5,000 kills.
Non-serious attachments like the Anti Sight, Emoji Sight, Canted Animu Sight and Canted Furro Sight which are currently over 5000 kills, can stay like this.

The Long Barrel, Short Barrel, New optics and Stock options have good kill requirements, so I'll leave them out.
I will also leave out the M231 drums, since there's a new one coming that isn't in the Test Place yet, and I do not know the kill requirement of it, but both Drums are ridiculous high priced right now.

Perhaps we can brainstorm this Mardemon1?

Alright, I'm done here, I went through EVERY gun in the Test Place and looked at every attachment that I find ridiculously priced.
If anyone wants to leave something here, go ahead.
if Mar wants to say something, go ahead.

This costed me an hour to make non stop.

Hellcat5

I didn't know if I should post it in Phantom Forces or Off Topics catagory, but since most questions we're PF related, I threw it in the PF catagory.

Anyways, In this topic, I will collect as many informative answers as I can from the recent Q&A on the PF reddit, I will also name who answered them (Although, I do not know who runs the u/stylis_studios reddit account, But my guess it's Lito)
I will use shortened names so save some time.

• (L) = Lito (Which I think is u/stylis_studios)
• (S) = Shay
• (A) = AxisAngle
• (R) = Raspy_Pi
• (T) = Toothless aka Sema
• (H) = Hypo

Here we go:

• (L) There is currently no set plan or active plan on Equipment since it's difficult with the current framework and adds a whole new layer of weapon features.
  • (L) Another reason mentioned is that a full rewrite may be required.
  • (L) In the same question, Lito also says that other features have a higher priority right now such as character customization, daily challenges, general fixes,..., But Equipment has never been fully discarded, It may take a very long time or may never come if the game dies.
• (S) When being asked for more lower rank weapons, Shay explains that their plan is to give every rank an unlock of some sort, They might look into ways to mitigate the grind like nature of new updates but aside from that they will be adding the m14 as a rank 2 unlock in the near future.
  • (S) Melee's are sort of an exception when it comes to rank unlocks, You can still unlock a gun + a melee on the same rank.
  • (S) Shay admits that the "1 gun per rank" idea is not a good idea for long term progression, They never expected PF to last this long.
    • (S) They may come up with more ways to unlock new weaponry such as challenge type progression.
    • (S) In future Stylis game titles, They may experiment with "gun tech trees".
• (S) There is a MP7 remodel that's nearly finished, Shay also started on a FAMAS remodel.
  • (S) Shay confirms in another question that the MP7 will be the next official remodel.
  • (S) Shay was also asked if the MP7 remodel will use flip up sights or the current BO2 style sights, Shay answered that he will model both but is unsure which will make it to the game, He might make one of them an Optic attachment.
• (L) Bipods may possibly become a thing, but will mostly be a matter of how do they want to implement it and at the moment they haven't thought about the stats or the "mounting" mechanics.
• (S) Shay considered making the IMI Galil, but he's unsure which one he wants to model.
• (S) When asked how updates are decided, A part is decided by the community from multiple sources (discord, reddit, forums, test place,...) and their motivation to approach said content.
  • (L) They don't have explicit plans for each update, They think of a list of bugs to push through and throw some new content in it to spice up the update, Often it's guns from the same family or a new map, When they think they have been tested in the Test Place long enough, they pick a notable weekend or holiday to push the update in one package.
• (L) They always come up with more special events such as the Sandstorm and Crane melee on random days, They usually do not plan them, they just randomly get the idea and implement it for fun.
• (S) Shay is currently not interested in accepting community made guns, All guns will come from him, Community made melee's are welcome though.
  • Maybe we forum members should teamwork on a melee together?
• (S) They are still interested in adding more grenades, but they will add explosives first before AOE types (Molotovs, Smokes,...)
• They we're also asked what type of pizza they liked:
  • (S) Hawaiian with over easy or sunny side eggs.
  • (A) Supreme
  • (L) Pan or New York style pizza with pepperoni, mushrooms, onions.
• (R) When asked why to run PF on Roblox, Raspy responded that Roblox provides alot that they need: Servers, Datastores, and a decent playerbase, He's also worried about the Stylis team having to learn whole new programming languages.
• (S) Shay will keep the AK-107 in mind when remodelling the AK-12's.
• (S) Shay will update the AK-12's to match the current non experimental counterparts when he will remodel the AK-12's.
  • (S) Shay will use the 2018 versions, That version simply did not exist when he made the AK-12's.
• (L) The most fun part of Lito with developing PF is immediately throwing a prototype feature in the Test Place and have players try it out, See the progress and player reactions which motivates him.
• (L) Lito has thought about making a PF successor with the same modern shooter theme, They can make it but that means they'll likely have to drop PF's support entirely, They would be lacking manpower and movitation to keep PF alive if they have an objectively better version to work on actively, All progression from players couldn't be transfered over to the successor game, and they wouldn't give out PF to a random group of devs for obvious reasons.
  • (L) If players are willing to accept that for what is essentially a new shooter with re-designed gun shooting mechanics, animations, gameplay flow, we are quite ready to move onto a new project away from PF.
• (L) Lito confirms there will be not trading system as it's far too exploitable and they never planned proper framework to support this with a balanced economy.
• (R) PF has come a long way in terms of anti-exploit in the past few years. Due to how roblox works some stuff is hard to combat such as aimbot. You can consider the client on roblox as a fully compromised place, whatever you do on it can be messed with. So they've been doing more server-based checks than client the past few years. The exploit stuff is slowly being worked on but consider that currently not everything can be addressed.
  • (T) To add onto this, Sema has greatly improved moderation on PF compared to years ago, making it quicker and easier for moderators to find exploiters and get rid of them.
• (A) Axis wants to make the vote system better up to a point where they can readd Gun Game and Infection back into public main game servers.
  • (A) Axis also has an idea where if you vote for a map, but did not win the vote, The next time you vote for that map will count your vote twice and if it still doesn't win, it will count thrice.
• (A) Axis likes the M249.
• (T) Sema responds that he was there when Axis shot one (and puts a lenny face)
  (H) Hypo says that Shay made the M249 and had it completed, but the file got corrupted.
• (S) Shay says that the M249 is highly requested and will be in the game eventually, He is currently demotivated to remake the M249 (because who won't be demotivated to start over from scratch after your work got deleted?), But he said it's a new year, so he will give the M249 another attempt.
• (S) Shay says that the ACR is also highly requested and "might aswell model one soonish"
• (S) Shay says that he wants to implement the M14 as a family, filling more than just the Battle RIfle role.
• (S) Shay is unsure about the M1 Garand, but he knows it's extremely high requested, so it's a maybe.
• (S) Shay is interested in the XM8, but wants to see if people really demand it.
• (S) The AWP might be added to PF just because Shay sees himself remodelling the AWM, but is unsure how it'd be unique though just because model wise it's not unique outside of it chambered in a smaller round.
• (S) Shay says the AS50 is a maybe, although it might be similar to the Barrett.
• (S) Shay has plans to remake the M60.
• (L) Lito was asked on an opinion of Bad Business, He says they have really nice character models and some good ideas/mechanics in an FPS game.
  • (L) The low TTK and weak gun recoil does not feel his style of FPS games, but there are other things they do well that Lito can learn from.
  • (H) Hypo personally thinks it's a lot of fun, but he finds the grind considerably worse than any shooter he played recently.
• (S) Shay is not interested in modelling laser guns unless they are dev only.
• (S) Shay is interested in a Secondary themed Update.
  • (S) Shay says he's also kind of interested in a secondary only gamemode.
  • (S) For the Secondary Update, He wants to make German and Russian pistols since PF currently has none of them, but he's also interested in making the Fort-17, but the German and Russian pistols hold priority over it.
• (A) Axis was asked if there would be a crossover between Stylis and other FPS game groups (ROLVe, Rudimentality,...), Axis confirms he's currently living with the Rudimentality founder (though he has since left) and has been working on and off on a mobile FPS game with PC support. (Mercenary Simulator)
• (L) Lito considers the end goal of PF (or when he feels like it's completed) when he finally adds equipment.
• (S) Shay confirms Customization is in the works and might be the next big update.
• When the devs we're asked what they thought about Arsenal:
  • (S) Shay played the game for a long time and is Level 130.
  • (A) Axis plays it often, but finds the mid air strafing thing annoying when it pushes you into a wall and keeps you from falling quickly.
  • (L) Lito admits Arsenal has some of the best gun animations on Roblox and hopes to match or surpass that in their future games.
• (L) Lito considered adding more ammo types for the Judge and Jury (such as .410 Shotshells for Jury), He will look at this topic later on.
• (L) They have no planned reanimation list, But he reanimates guns as they get remodels, He also says the MK11, UMP family (He says family even though there's only the UMP-45?) and AK12 family might get a reanimation.
• (L) Stylis has been constantly coming up with idea's for their next game, but keeps adding it to PF instead.
• (L) When asked about their thoughts of people complaining that they should add less guns but fix more bugs, Lito responded that their developer roles are defined and does not understand this complaint and says Shay's job is modelling guns and maps.
  • And that was my question, and it's exactly what I said when people complained about it.
• (L) Lito says that the ZIP 22's addition was inspired from the Kolibri in Battlefield 1.
• (L) Lito is interested in returning the PPK and SVK, but he's withholding it because of the huge AK12 family backlash, but he thinks time has passed enough where the backlash died down and can look to reintroduce them as their gun files are already in the main game.
• (L) When asked why the Police Attachments we're removed from the Deagle XIX, the reasons we're balance concerns.
• (L) Lito was asked what gun he hates being killed by, but he hates more being killed by the same player rather than being killed by the same gun, He does not care what gun he gets killed by.
• (S) Shay's favorite PF gun is the Mosin Nagant.
• (S) Shay says we can expect a Dragunov SVU and Dragunov SVDS remodel this year, With the SVU having optional iron sight aiming.
• (S) Shay's favorite skin case is the Pattern Case.
• (S) Shay wants to keep some WW1/WW2 guns away from PF and save them for a future game focussed on WW1/WW2.

The 5th one!

Unfortunately due to the old forums being gone, The other 4 are gone too, But I will revisit a few suggestions that need more attention.

(This topic series is about minor suggestions that I come up that can improve Phantom Forces that do not need a full topic)

Extra VIP server commands.

• /changestats <weapon>:<module>:<integer>
  • Allows you to change the stats of a weapon, Resets when the VIP server closes.
  • Example: /changestats FAL 50.00:MIN_DAMAGE:100 would change the FAL 50.00's min damage to 100.
• /resetstats <weapon>
  • Resets the stats to default on a specific weapon.
• /admin <player>
  • Allows a player to use most server commands like the VIP server owner can.
• /unadmin <player>
  • Demotes that player that decides to abuse your VIP server commands, Eugh...
• /randomloadout
  • Gives you a random primary, secondary and melee with random attachments.
• /sethealth <number>
  • Changes the max health of everyone in the server.
• /freezetime
  • Freezes the round timer.

When someone starts a votekick, A text opens where the player has to write the reason of the votekick.

• Would make votekicks less random.
• There should also be a message saying that if votekicks are abused, the user would get chatbanned.
• Everyone can read the reason.

When playing Gun Game, The Golden ZIP is required to win a game.

• Melee shouldn't be used to win the game on the last weapon.
  • Abused alot by people who are too lazy to use the Golden ZIP.

CTAR Barrel should rename all TAR-21 names to CTAR-21!

• There are several "TAR-21" names left untouched while it should be CTAR-21.
  • Examples are the Death UI, It still says you are killed by a TAR-21.
  • Killfeed
  • Weapon Loadout UI.

When the Glock Stock is equipped on the Glock 17 or 18, The weapon name shouldn't be renamed to "G Stock"

• Why is that happening?

Update the colors and some of the models of the 3rd person weapons.

• Most of the 3rd person models still use the blue-black old color.
• Remington 700 is still green.
• SL-8 is simply a G36 model made white.
• HK416 is simply a M4A1.
• The Glocks have stocks equipped even when they don't have it.
• VSS Vintorez has a scope equipped even when it isn't equipped.

Update the weapon background UI.

• All weapons are still using the old colors.
• The new weapons are missing while there is clearly space left for them.

Add an exclusive scope attachment to the MSG90 and Henry 45-70.

• So many weapons are getting exclusive scope attachments, but the MSG90 not?
  • The Hensoldt ZF 6x42 would be perfect, It's the scope that the PSG-1 uses.
• The MSG90 is more of a semi auto sniper, why shouldn't it have a scope?
• Same thing to Henry 45-70, It could use the Leopuld scope that the Steyr Scout has.

The Frying Pan should make the TF2 pan hit sound.

• PWOONNGG!!!

Proposed rebalance for Ballistics Trackers:

• (+) When aiming on or a few inches near a target, A yellow dot appears at their head, Calculating the height of your distance to gain a perfect headshot.
• (+) Yellow dot can be seen in the dark.
• (-) Extra sideways recoil!
• (-) Decreases aim speed more than grips do!
• (-) Hipfire is less accurate!

SAIGA-12U already has access to them, with tinier mags.

doublepiedavid If you inspect the SAIGA-12 or SAIGA-12U with full auto and a conversion ammo, Shoot and it will keep shooting in the direction of the inspect, it won't go back until you stop firing or run out of ammo.

RedCo Oh yes.

SAIGA-12/SAIGA-12U with Full Auto (most noticable with 5.56, 7.62 or .308 conversions added aswell) has a funny bug.
This should be kept forever!

We now have a corner shooter gun!

Link to video showcasing it

Part 2:

And this funny bug exists with the SAIGA-12 and SAIGA-12U in full auto only.
(Full Auto + Any new SAIGA ammo conversion recommended)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXedd-nqwdE

Test place update!

AUG A3

• Can now equip .300 Blackout conversion
  • Increases damage for less range and more recoil.

SAIGA-12 and SAIGA-12U:

• S-12 Full Auto can be combined with all of the new ammo's!
• Currently still ejects shotgun shells, will be fixed.

SAIGA-12 stats:

• Can now equip 5.56x45mm NATO conversion:
  • Renames your gun to SAIGA-556!
  • 34-20 damage.
  • 650 fire rate.
  • 30 magazine capacity.
  • 120 ammo reserve.
• Can now equip .308 Winchester conversion:
  • Renames your gun to SAIGA-308!
  • 40-30 damage.
  • 600 fire rate.
  • 20 magazine capacity.
  • 120 ammo reserve.
• Can now equip 7.62x39mm conversion:
  • Renames your gun to SAIGA-762!
  • 39-28 damage.
  • 600 fire rate.
  • 30 magazine capacity.
  • 120 ammo reserve.

SAIGA-12U stats:

• Extended Magazine moved to ammo to prevent confliction with the new ammo's.
• The ammo's currently have the same names of the primary SAIGA-12, Mar is notified by this, it should be SAIGA-556U, SAIGA-762U and SAIGA-308U soon!
• Can now equip 5.56x45mm NATO conversion:
  • Renames your gun to SAIGA-556U! (Should be fixed soon)
  • 36.51-18.82 damage.
  • 650 fire rate.
  • 10 magazine capacity.
  • 50 ammo reserve.
• Can now equip .308 Winchester conversion:
  • Renames your gun to SAIGA-308U! (Should be fixed soon)
  • 42.96-28.23 damage.
  • 600 fire rate.
  • 5 magazine capacity.
  • 50 ammo reserve.
• Can now equip 7.62x39mm conversion:
  • Renames your gun to SAIGA-762U! (Should be fixed soon)
  • 41.88-26.35 damage.
  • 600 fire rate.
  • 10 magazine capacity.
  • 50 ammo reserve.

UMP-40 conversion changes:

Smaller changes:

• MG3KWS walkspeed increased from 11 to 12!
• Fixed Tracerless ammo description.

G36 Hopefully!

House Fight dev I do not know.

For those who are interested, This is what Shay posted as a draft for the hub:

ExKaySeedy So basically, we will be able to turn our SAIGA-12 into a Battle Rifle, AK assault rifle and NATO assault rifle?
I wonder if the SAIGA-12U will be able to do the same.