The Secondary Update...
So, If you all have followed me on the older forums.
I always liked gun suggestions involving Pistols, Machine Pistols, Revolvers and Other Secondaries for the reason that we need secondaries, and that's true.
You may also remember that I mentioned "Secondary Update" alot, Because we need an update that expands our choices of secondaries, Which is also true.
And when asking Shay about it, He also agrees there should be a Secondary Update and is willing to work on it.
And now here I am, With a new big suggestion list about a topic, and this time the topic is a well fitting Secondary Update.
I am going to write my personal requests and idea's for a successful Secondary Update here, Of course you all can give your opinions and idea's here too.
Anyways, I'm gonna get started with it:
(Quick extra note, All of these are suggestions, Please do not mistakingly think this is a confirmed update, All we know is that Shay is interested in making such an update.)
The Secondary Update - Suggestion List:
New suggested features:
- Temporary new gamemode: Sidearm Wars
- Bans the use of Primaries during the round, No exceptions.
- All Secondaries, Melee's and Grenades are still allowed, but Secondaries are recommended.
- Just like Gun Game and Infection, this is temporary.
- The gamemode will be Test Place and VIP Server exclusive after, or if a dev decides to activate it for fun.
- New +25 XP Bonus for killing someone while gangster aiming with a pistol.
Current secondary change suggestions:
- M9:
- G17:
- Revert name to "Glock 17"
- Minor reload nerf when 33rd Mag is equipped.
- M1911:
- Minor muzzle velocity nerf.
- Reduce magazine capacity to 7.
- Desert Eagle L5:
- M45A1:
- Five Seven:
- ZIP 22:
- Minor recoil buff to be usable again with scopes.
- Minor recoil nerf when Pro Mag is equipped.
- Desert Eagle XIX:
- Readded Police Attachments.
- G18:
- Revert name to "Glock 18"
- Minor reload nerf when 33rd Mag is equipped.
- Decreased long range damage.
- M93R:
- Rename to "Beretta M93R"
- Minor damage nerf to make sure it's no longer a straight upgrade of the M9.
- Still enough damage to do a 3-hit burst kill.
- Decreased long range damage.
- TEC-9:
- Added 32 Round Magazine attachment.
- Increases magazine capacity to 32.
- Decreases spare ammo to 32.
- Increases weight.
- Increases reload time.
- Decreased long range damage.
- Micro Uzi:
- Minor recoil buff for less RNG.
- Added 25 Round Magazine attachment.
- Increases magazine capacity to 25.
- Decreases spare ammo to 50.
- Increases weight.
- Decreased long range damage.
- MP1911:
- Added Stock attachment to reduce recoil.
- Increases weight and makes hipfire less stable.
- Decreased long range damage.
- MP412 REX:
- Decreased reload time due to it's realisticly fast reload mechanism.
- Decreased RPM to 450.
- 1858 New Army:
- Slight nerf in recoil because it being super OP right now, especially with fan firing.
- Mateba 6:
- Nothing.
- Because it's an Autorevolver, It should hold the fastest RPM, Double Action revolvers normally fire at 200 RPM, but I don't want to ruin the other revolvers.
- Redhawk 44:
- Judge:
- When using Flechette, Pellet spread slightly increased due to extra pellet count. (Test Place)
- When using Birdshot, Pellet spread is increased.
- Remove Slugs and replace it with .45 Long Colt for more balanced stats.
- Executioner:
- Serbu Shotgun:
- Small pellet spread buff because the Sawed Off and SAIGA are better.
- Small close range damage buff at close range.
- Recolor this gun, It's ugly right now.
- SFG 50:
- Slight reload buff to make it more viable, since the BFG and SFG are the worst weapons in the game actually.
- Sawed Off:
- SAIGA-12U:
- Obrez:
- Remove random RNG choke/spread.
- It has enough drawbacks already, why does RNG spread exist?
New secondary suggestions:
CZ-75
Stats:
A 12-rounder pistol that has high damage for a 9mm pistol, Lower than average magazine size for a 9mm pistol.
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| Category: |
Pistol |
| Country of origin: |
Czechoslovakia |
| Damage: |
38-29 |
| Damage falloff range: |
50-95 studs |
| Headshot multiplier: |
(x1.50) 57-43.5 |
| Bodyshot multiplier: |
(x1.20) 45.6-34.8 |
| Fire rate: |
780 RPM |
| Magazine size: |
12 |
| Ammo reserve: |
108 |
| Bullet type: |
9x19mm |
| Reload time: |
2.0 seconds |
| Empty reload time: |
2.1 seconds |
| Default fire mode: |
Semi |
| Fire modes: |
Semi |
| Muzzle velocity: |
1,800 studs/s |
| Penetration depth: |
0.5 studs |
| Weapon walkspeed: |
15.0 studs/s |
USP .45
Stats:
A .45 ACP pistol with 10 round magazine, High damage like the other 2 .45 ACP pistols, Lower fire rate than the other 2, but makes up for it's lower recoil.
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| Category: |
Pistol |
| Country of origin: |
Germany |
| Damage: |
50-28 |
| Damage falloff range: |
15-80 studs |
| Headshot multiplier: |
(x1.40) 70-39.2 |
| Bodyshot multiplier: |
(x1.10) 55-30.8 |
| Fire rate: |
600 RPM |
| Magazine size: |
10 |
| Ammo reserve: |
50 |
| Bullet type: |
.45 ACP |
| Reload time: |
2.6 seconds |
| Empty reload time: |
2.8 seconds |
| Default fire mode: |
Semi |
| Fire modes: |
Semi |
| Muzzle velocity: |
1,650 studs/s |
| Penetration depth: |
0.5 studs |
| Weapon walkspeed: |
15.0 studs/s |
Makarov PM
Stats:
A classic pistol from the well known Roblox game: Apocalypse Rising, 8 round magazine with a small bullet, Deals low damage but has very low recoil.
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| Category: |
Pistol |
| Country of origin: |
Russia / Soviet Union |
| Damage: |
33-19 |
| Damage falloff range: |
40-80 studs |
| Headshot multiplier: |
(x1.40) 46.2-26.6 |
| Bodyshot multiplier: |
(x1.10) 36.3-20.9 |
| Fire rate: |
750 RPM |
| Magazine size: |
8 |
| Ammo reserve: |
64 |
| Bullet type: |
9x18 Makarov |
| Reload time: |
2.1 seconds |
| Empty reload time: |
2.3 seconds |
| Default fire mode: |
Semi |
| Fire modes: |
Semi |
| Muzzle velocity: |
1,400 studs/s |
| Penetration depth: |
0.5 studs |
| Weapon walkspeed: |
15.0 studs/s |
Luger P08
Stats:
Classic WW2 German pistol, Decent damage, but very low fire rate due to it's mechanism, A higher movement speed to calculate for it's loss of fire rate.
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| Category: |
Pistol |
| Country of origin: |
Germany |
| Damage: |
36-27 |
| Damage falloff range: |
60-100 studs |
| Headshot multiplier: |
(x1.50) 54-40.5 |
| Bodyshot multiplier: |
(x1.10) 39.6-29.7 |
| Fire rate: |
116 RPM |
| Magazine size: |
8 |
| Ammo reserve: |
72 |
| Bullet type: |
9x19mm |
| Reload time: |
2.4 seconds |
| Empty reload time: |
2.7 seconds |
| Default fire mode: |
Semi |
| Fire modes: |
Semi |
| Muzzle velocity: |
1,100 studs/s |
| Penetration depth: |
0.5 studs |
| Weapon walkspeed: |
15.5 studs/s |
M11
Stats:
Also known as the P228, Decent pistol with good damage and a good bodyshot multiplier.
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| Category: |
Pistol |
| Country of origin: |
Germany / Switzerland |
| Damage: |
40-25 |
| Damage falloff range: |
50-95 studs |
| Headshot multiplier: |
(x1.50) 60-37.5 |
| Bodyshot multiplier: |
(x1.20) 48-30 |
| Fire rate: |
780 RPM |
| Magazine size: |
13 |
| Ammo reserve: |
104 |
| Bullet type: |
9x19mm |
| Reload time: |
2.0 seconds |
| Empty reload time: |
2.1 seconds |
| Default fire mode: |
Semi |
| Fire modes: |
Semi |
| Muzzle velocity: |
1,800 studs/s |
| Penetration depth: |
0.5 studs |
| Weapon walkspeed: |
15.0 studs/s |
CZ-75 Auto
Stats:
Automatic version of the CZ-75 pistol, Good fire rate for a machine pistol, low damage, average recoil, low magazine count, but good reload speed and damage range.
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| Category: |
Machine Pistol |
| Country of origin: |
Czechoslovakia |
| Damage: |
31-19 |
| Damage falloff range: |
25-60 studs |
| Headshot multiplier: |
(x1.40) 43.4-26.6 |
| Bodyshot multiplier: |
(x1.00) 31-19 |
| Fire rate: |
1000 RPM |
| Magazine size: |
12 |
| Ammo reserve: |
72 |
| Bullet type: |
9x19mm |
| Reload time: |
2.6 seconds |
| Empty reload time: |
2.7 seconds |
| Default fire mode: |
Auto |
| Fire modes: |
Auto |
| Muzzle velocity: |
1,800 studs/s |
| Penetration depth: |
0.5 studs |
| Weapon walkspeed: |
14.5 studs/s |
CBJ-MS
Stats:
A SMG with lower fire rate, Stable recoil and damage, remains lightweight and easy to use.
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| Category: |
Machine Pistol |
| Country of origin: |
Sweden |
| Damage: |
36-21 |
| Damage falloff range: |
32-70 studs |
| Headshot multiplier: |
(x1.40) 50.4-29.4 |
| Bodyshot multiplier: |
(x1.00) 36-21 |
| Fire rate: |
700 RPM |
| Magazine size: |
20 |
| Ammo reserve: |
60 |
| Bullet type: |
6.5x25mm CBJ |
| Reload time: |
2.6 seconds |
| Empty reload time: |
3.0 seconds |
| Default fire mode: |
Auto |
| Fire modes: |
Auto |
| Muzzle velocity: |
1,800 studs/s |
| Penetration depth: |
0.75 studs |
| Weapon walkspeed: |
15 studs/s |
PP-2000
Stats:
Interesting machine pistol that can be considered a PDW aswell, Decent fire rate, recoil and damage while remaining fast to reload, Good muzzle velocity.
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| Category: |
Machine Pistol |
| Country of origin: |
Russia |
| Damage: |
36-21 |
| Damage falloff range: |
32-70 studs |
| Headshot multiplier: |
(x1.40) 50.4-29.4 |
| Bodyshot multiplier: |
(x1.00) 36-21 |
| Fire rate: |
800 RPM |
| Magazine size: |
20 |
| Ammo reserve: |
60 |
| Bullet type: |
9x19mm |
| Reload time: |
2.2 seconds |
| Empty reload time: |
2.7 seconds |
| Default fire mode: |
Auto |
| Fire modes: |
Auto |
| Muzzle velocity: |
2,000 studs/s |
| Penetration depth: |
0.5 studs |
| Weapon walkspeed: |
15 studs/s |
Škorpion vz. 61
Stats:
Well known machine pistol, Has a good damage falloff range and fire rate, but is not good for muzzle velocity.
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| Category: |
Machine Pistol |
| Country of origin: |
Czechoslovakia |
| Damage: |
36-19 |
| Damage falloff range: |
32-70 studs |
| Headshot multiplier: |
(x1.40) 50.4-29.4 |
| Bodyshot multiplier: |
(x1.00) 36-19 |
| Fire rate: |
850 RPM |
| Magazine size: |
20 |
| Ammo reserve: |
60 |
| Bullet type: |
.32 ACP |
| Reload time: |
2.2 seconds |
| Empty reload time: |
2.7 seconds |
| Default fire mode: |
Auto |
| Fire modes: |
Auto |
| Muzzle velocity: |
1,500 studs/s |
| Penetration depth: |
0.5 studs |
| Weapon walkspeed: |
15 studs/s |
Colt Python
Stats:
A well known revolver, Lower damage but better muzzle velocity due to a long barrel.
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| Category: |
Revolver |
| Country of origin: |
United States |
| Damage: |
52-33 |
| Damage falloff range: |
70-100 studs |
| Headshot multiplier: |
(x2.50) 130-82.5 |
| Bodyshot multiplier: |
(x1.40) 72.8-46.2 |
| Fire rate: |
400 RPM |
| Magazine size: |
6 |
| Ammo reserve: |
42 |
| Bullet type: |
.357 Magnum |
| Reload time: |
3.6 seconds |
| Empty reload time: |
3.6 seconds |
| Default fire mode: |
Semi |
| Fire modes: |
Semi |
| Muzzle velocity: |
2,000 studs/s |
| Penetration depth: |
1.0 studs |
| Weapon walkspeed: |
14 studs/s |
Model 500
Stats:
Extremely powerful revolver, This revolver deserves to 1-hit headshot at all ranges, but at the cost of a low fire rate, long reload and heavy recoil.
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| Category: |
Revolver |
| Country of origin: |
United States |
| Damage: |
90-48 |
| Damage falloff range: |
40-80 studs |
| Headshot multiplier: |
(x2.50) 225-120 |
| Bodyshot multiplier: |
(x1.40) 126-67.2 |
| Fire rate: |
200 RPM |
| Magazine size: |
5 |
| Ammo reserve: |
20 |
| Bullet type: |
.500 S&W Magnum |
| Reload time: |
4.2 seconds |
| Empty reload time: |
4.2 seconds |
| Default fire mode: |
Semi |
| Fire modes: |
Semi |
| Muzzle velocity: |
2,000 studs/s |
| Penetration depth: |
2.0 studs |
| Weapon walkspeed: |
13 studs/s |
OTs-38
Stats:
Revolver with an intergrated suppressor, Low damage but makes up for it's silence, Shooting the body or head is still powerful.
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| Category: |
Revolver |
| Country of origin: |
Russia |
| Damage: |
48-25 |
| Damage falloff range: |
45-70 studs |
| Headshot multiplier: |
(x2.50) 120-62.5 |
| Bodyshot multiplier: |
(x1.40) 67.2-35 |
| Fire rate: |
400 RPM |
| Magazine size: |
5 |
| Ammo reserve: |
40 |
| Bullet type: |
7.62x42 mm SP-4 |
| Reload time: |
3.6 seconds |
| Empty reload time: |
3.6 seconds |
| Default fire mode: |
Semi |
| Fire modes: |
Semi |
| Muzzle velocity: |
1,250 studs/s |
| Penetration depth: |
1.0 studs |
| Weapon walkspeed: |
15 studs/s |
Alright, that's it.
I'm done, This took me hours to type all down.
