This test place news article will be a smaller one so we atleast have one in the new forums.
#33 will be made once there's more new content.

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Mall Revamp

Mall has been revamped by the community, It's been entirely remade from scratch!

Unfortunately this new site's filesize limit is really small, and Imgur pictures do not get uploaded, So click the link below for all of Mall Revamp's pictures.

https://imgur.com/a/0v7OJBe

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The return of Sight Reticle Coloring.

Sight coloring has returned, It works the same as before, Get 10 kills while you have an optic equipped on your weapon and you will unlock reticle coloring, where you can give your sight reticle any color you want with RGB sliders.

Unfortunately, this does not work on default scopes, default iron sights and canted sights.

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The ammo catagory:

Added new attachment catagory: Ammo

• Armor Piercing, Hollow Point, Flechette, Birdshot and Slugs have been moved to that.
• Available on Primaries and Secondaries.
• Judge can now use Flechette, Birdshot and Slugs.
  • Judge with Flechette has a bug(?) that gives it 8 pellets instead of 4, Making it a super effective shotgun.
  • Judge with Birdshot is very deadly up close.
  • Judge with Slugs deal more damage than the Executioner.
• SFG 50 can no longer use Armor Piercing or Hollow Point.
• Birdshot now decreases both max and min damage. (Already in the main game, Shadow nerf)
  • Max damage range however is slightly increased.
• Executioner can now use AP and HP.

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Want to play the new Mall Revamp and Reticle Colors?
Join the Test Place!

https://www.roblox.com/games/299659045/test-place

At last, after maybe over a year, The HK51B has finally hit the test place!
And the big mystery has been solved, What catagory was the HK51B gonna be in? LMG's? PDW's? Grenades? No! It's Carbines!

Test place update date: 26/01/2020

HK51B

Weapon skin zones: Available
Weapon sounds: https://youtu.be/VSHDjZB295I

Weapon screenshots:
Click here!

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HK51B stats:

Rank:	0	Free to use for now, Have fun! (Planned rank unknown)
Category:	Carbine
Damage:	43-26
Damage falloff range:	35-140 studs
Headshot multiplier:	(x1.40) 60.2-36.4
Bodyshot multiplier:	(x1.00) 43-26
Fire rate:	1000 RPM
Magazine size:	100
Ammo reserve:	200
Bullet type:	7.62x51mm NATO
Reload time:	6.7 seconds
Empty reload time:	6.8 seconds
Default fire mode:	Auto
Fire modes:	Auto / Burst / Semi
Muzzle velocity:	2,200 studs/s
Penetration depth:	1.5 studs
Suppression:	1.2
Equip speed:	12
Aiming speed:	11
Weapon walkspeed:	13.0 studs/s
Aiming walkspeed:	7.8 studs/s
Round in chamber:	None

Extra notes about the HK51B:

• Using Hollow Point, you can make it 2-hit anywhere up close, However it makes long range damage a 5-hit anywhere.

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Extra discovered things:

• New Muzzle Booster barrel attachment.
  • (+) Increases RPM by 8%.
  • (-) Increases recoil.
  • (-) Decreases suppression.
• Contracts are being worked on by Lito.
• New voting system being worked on by Lito.
• C7A2 is still dev-only.
• New attachment catagory: Ammo
  • The new home of Armor Piercing, Hollow Point, Flechette, Birdshot and Slugs!
• Various new maps such as Labatory, 2 Crane Site Revamp versions.
• Test place map updates on Inferno, Stilla Residence,...

Click here to play the Test Place!

Hellcat5

I didn't know if I should post it in Phantom Forces or Off Topics catagory, but since most questions we're PF related, I threw it in the PF catagory.

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Anyways, In this topic, I will collect as many informative answers as I can from the recent Q&A on the PF reddit, I will also name who answered them (Although, I do not know who runs the u/stylis_studios reddit account, But my guess it's Lito)
I will use shortened names so save some time.

• (L) = Lito (Which I think is u/stylis_studios)
• (S) = Shay
• (A) = AxisAngle
• (R) = Raspy_Pi
• (T) = Toothless aka Sema
• (H) = Hypo

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Here we go:

• (L) There is currently no set plan or active plan on Equipment since it's difficult with the current framework and adds a whole new layer of weapon features.
  • (L) Another reason mentioned is that a full rewrite may be required.
  • (L) In the same question, Lito also says that other features have a higher priority right now such as character customization, daily challenges, general fixes,..., But Equipment has never been fully discarded, It may take a very long time or may never come if the game dies.
• (S) When being asked for more lower rank weapons, Shay explains that their plan is to give every rank an unlock of some sort, They might look into ways to mitigate the grind like nature of new updates but aside from that they will be adding the m14 as a rank 2 unlock in the near future.
  • (S) Melee's are sort of an exception when it comes to rank unlocks, You can still unlock a gun + a melee on the same rank.
  • (S) Shay admits that the "1 gun per rank" idea is not a good idea for long term progression, They never expected PF to last this long.
    • (S) They may come up with more ways to unlock new weaponry such as challenge type progression.
    • (S) In future Stylis game titles, They may experiment with "gun tech trees".
• (S) There is a MP7 remodel that's nearly finished, Shay also started on a FAMAS remodel.
  • (S) Shay confirms in another question that the MP7 will be the next official remodel.
  • (S) Shay was also asked if the MP7 remodel will use flip up sights or the current BO2 style sights, Shay answered that he will model both but is unsure which will make it to the game, He might make one of them an Optic attachment.
• (L) Bipods may possibly become a thing, but will mostly be a matter of how do they want to implement it and at the moment they haven't thought about the stats or the "mounting" mechanics.
• (S) Shay considered making the IMI Galil, but he's unsure which one he wants to model.
• (S) When asked how updates are decided, A part is decided by the community from multiple sources (discord, reddit, forums, test place,...) and their motivation to approach said content.
  • (L) They don't have explicit plans for each update, They think of a list of bugs to push through and throw some new content in it to spice up the update, Often it's guns from the same family or a new map, When they think they have been tested in the Test Place long enough, they pick a notable weekend or holiday to push the update in one package.
• (L) They always come up with more special events such as the Sandstorm and Crane melee on random days, They usually do not plan them, they just randomly get the idea and implement it for fun.
• (S) Shay is currently not interested in accepting community made guns, All guns will come from him, Community made melee's are welcome though.
  • Maybe we forum members should teamwork on a melee together?
• (S) They are still interested in adding more grenades, but they will add explosives first before AOE types (Molotovs, Smokes,...)
• They we're also asked what type of pizza they liked:
  • (S) Hawaiian with over easy or sunny side eggs.
  • (A) Supreme
  • (L) Pan or New York style pizza with pepperoni, mushrooms, onions.
• (R) When asked why to run PF on Roblox, Raspy responded that Roblox provides alot that they need: Servers, Datastores, and a decent playerbase, He's also worried about the Stylis team having to learn whole new programming languages.
• (S) Shay will keep the AK-107 in mind when remodelling the AK-12's.
• (S) Shay will update the AK-12's to match the current non experimental counterparts when he will remodel the AK-12's.
  • (S) Shay will use the 2018 versions, That version simply did not exist when he made the AK-12's.
• (L) The most fun part of Lito with developing PF is immediately throwing a prototype feature in the Test Place and have players try it out, See the progress and player reactions which motivates him.
• (L) Lito has thought about making a PF successor with the same modern shooter theme, They can make it but that means they'll likely have to drop PF's support entirely, They would be lacking manpower and movitation to keep PF alive if they have an objectively better version to work on actively, All progression from players couldn't be transfered over to the successor game, and they wouldn't give out PF to a random group of devs for obvious reasons.
  • (L) If players are willing to accept that for what is essentially a new shooter with re-designed gun shooting mechanics, animations, gameplay flow, we are quite ready to move onto a new project away from PF.
• (L) Lito confirms there will be not trading system as it's far too exploitable and they never planned proper framework to support this with a balanced economy.
• (R) PF has come a long way in terms of anti-exploit in the past few years. Due to how roblox works some stuff is hard to combat such as aimbot. You can consider the client on roblox as a fully compromised place, whatever you do on it can be messed with. So they've been doing more server-based checks than client the past few years. The exploit stuff is slowly being worked on but consider that currently not everything can be addressed.
  • (T) To add onto this, Sema has greatly improved moderation on PF compared to years ago, making it quicker and easier for moderators to find exploiters and get rid of them.
• (A) Axis wants to make the vote system better up to a point where they can readd Gun Game and Infection back into public main game servers.
  • (A) Axis also has an idea where if you vote for a map, but did not win the vote, The next time you vote for that map will count your vote twice and if it still doesn't win, it will count thrice.
• (A) Axis likes the M249.
• (T) Sema responds that he was there when Axis shot one (and puts a lenny face)
  (H) Hypo says that Shay made the M249 and had it completed, but the file got corrupted.
• (S) Shay says that the M249 is highly requested and will be in the game eventually, He is currently demotivated to remake the M249 (because who won't be demotivated to start over from scratch after your work got deleted?), But he said it's a new year, so he will give the M249 another attempt.
• (S) Shay says that the ACR is also highly requested and "might aswell model one soonish"
• (S) Shay says that he wants to implement the M14 as a family, filling more than just the Battle RIfle role.
• (S) Shay is unsure about the M1 Garand, but he knows it's extremely high requested, so it's a maybe.
• (S) Shay is interested in the XM8, but wants to see if people really demand it.
• (S) The AWP might be added to PF just because Shay sees himself remodelling the AWM, but is unsure how it'd be unique though just because model wise it's not unique outside of it chambered in a smaller round.
• (S) Shay says the AS50 is a maybe, although it might be similar to the Barrett.
• (S) Shay has plans to remake the M60.
• (L) Lito was asked on an opinion of Bad Business, He says they have really nice character models and some good ideas/mechanics in an FPS game.
  • (L) The low TTK and weak gun recoil does not feel his style of FPS games, but there are other things they do well that Lito can learn from.
  • (H) Hypo personally thinks it's a lot of fun, but he finds the grind considerably worse than any shooter he played recently.
• (S) Shay is not interested in modelling laser guns unless they are dev only.
• (S) Shay is interested in a Secondary themed Update.
  • (S) Shay says he's also kind of interested in a secondary only gamemode.
  • (S) For the Secondary Update, He wants to make German and Russian pistols since PF currently has none of them, but he's also interested in making the Fort-17, but the German and Russian pistols hold priority over it.
• (A) Axis was asked if there would be a crossover between Stylis and other FPS game groups (ROLVe, Rudimentality,...), Axis confirms he's currently living with the Rudimentality founder (though he has since left) and has been working on and off on a mobile FPS game with PC support. (Mercenary Simulator)
• (L) Lito considers the end goal of PF (or when he feels like it's completed) when he finally adds equipment.
• (S) Shay confirms Customization is in the works and might be the next big update.
• When the devs we're asked what they thought about Arsenal:
  • (S) Shay played the game for a long time and is Level 130.
  • (A) Axis plays it often, but finds the mid air strafing thing annoying when it pushes you into a wall and keeps you from falling quickly.
  • (L) Lito admits Arsenal has some of the best gun animations on Roblox and hopes to match or surpass that in their future games.
• (L) Lito considered adding more ammo types for the Judge and Jury (such as .410 Shotshells for Jury), He will look at this topic later on.
• (L) They have no planned reanimation list, But he reanimates guns as they get remodels, He also says the MK11, UMP family (He says family even though there's only the UMP-45?) and AK12 family might get a reanimation.
• (L) Stylis has been constantly coming up with idea's for their next game, but keeps adding it to PF instead.
• (L) When asked about their thoughts of people complaining that they should add less guns but fix more bugs, Lito responded that their developer roles are defined and does not understand this complaint and says Shay's job is modelling guns and maps.
  • And that was my question, and it's exactly what I said when people complained about it.
• (L) Lito says that the ZIP 22's addition was inspired from the Kolibri in Battlefield 1.
• (L) Lito is interested in returning the PPK and SVK, but he's withholding it because of the huge AK12 family backlash, but he thinks time has passed enough where the backlash died down and can look to reintroduce them as their gun files are already in the main game.
• (L) When asked why the Police Attachments we're removed from the Deagle XIX, the reasons we're balance concerns.
• (L) Lito was asked what gun he hates being killed by, but he hates more being killed by the same player rather than being killed by the same gun, He does not care what gun he gets killed by.
• (S) Shay's favorite PF gun is the Mosin Nagant.
• (S) Shay says we can expect a Dragunov SVU and Dragunov SVDS remodel this year, With the SVU having optional iron sight aiming.
• (S) Shay's favorite skin case is the Pattern Case.
• (S) Shay wants to keep some WW1/WW2 guns away from PF and save them for a future game focussed on WW1/WW2.

NayNayWhip Back in my day, we cuddled together on the hill of the dark highway lot while it rained grenades.
We had to take cover or the enemy forces would rain us with BFG BT's, FAMAS or Honey Badgers in the bitter cold weather of the revamped crane site.
But worst of all... we had no FAL's...
I barely made it out alive.

The Secondary Update...

So, If you all have followed me on the older forums.
I always liked gun suggestions involving Pistols, Machine Pistols, Revolvers and Other Secondaries for the reason that we need secondaries, and that's true.

You may also remember that I mentioned "Secondary Update" alot, Because we need an update that expands our choices of secondaries, Which is also true.

And when asking Shay about it, He also agrees there should be a Secondary Update and is willing to work on it.
And now here I am, With a new big suggestion list about a topic, and this time the topic is a well fitting Secondary Update.

I am going to write my personal requests and idea's for a successful Secondary Update here, Of course you all can give your opinions and idea's here too.

Anyways, I'm gonna get started with it:

(Quick extra note, All of these are suggestions, Please do not mistakingly think this is a confirmed update, All we know is that Shay is interested in making such an update.)

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The Secondary Update - Suggestion List:

New suggested features:

• Temporary new gamemode: Sidearm Wars
  • Bans the use of Primaries during the round, No exceptions.
  • All Secondaries, Melee's and Grenades are still allowed, but Secondaries are recommended.
  • Just like Gun Game and Infection, this is temporary.
    • The gamemode will be Test Place and VIP Server exclusive after, or if a dev decides to activate it for fun.
• New +25 XP Bonus for killing someone while gangster aiming with a pistol.

Current secondary change suggestions:

• M9:
  • Rename to "Beretta M9"
• G17:
  • Revert name to "Glock 17"
  • Minor reload nerf when 33rd Mag is equipped.
• M1911:
  • Minor muzzle velocity nerf.
  • Reduce magazine capacity to 7.
• Desert Eagle L5:
  • Small damage range nerf.
• M45A1:
  • Nothing.
• Five Seven:
  • Nothing.
• ZIP 22:
  • Minor recoil buff to be usable again with scopes.
  • Minor recoil nerf when Pro Mag is equipped.
• Desert Eagle XIX:
  • Readded Police Attachments.
• G18:
  • Revert name to "Glock 18"
  • Minor reload nerf when 33rd Mag is equipped.
  • Decreased long range damage.
• M93R:
  • Rename to "Beretta M93R"
  • Minor damage nerf to make sure it's no longer a straight upgrade of the M9.
    • Still enough damage to do a 3-hit burst kill.
  • Decreased long range damage.
• TEC-9:
  • Added 32 Round Magazine attachment.
    • Increases magazine capacity to 32.
    • Decreases spare ammo to 32.
    • Increases weight.
    • Increases reload time.
  • Decreased long range damage.
• Micro Uzi:
  • Minor recoil buff for less RNG.
  • Added 25 Round Magazine attachment.
    • Increases magazine capacity to 25.
    • Decreases spare ammo to 50.
    • Increases weight.
  • Decreased long range damage.
• MP1911:
  • Added Stock attachment to reduce recoil.
    • Increases weight and makes hipfire less stable.
  • Decreased long range damage.
• MP412 REX:
  • Decreased reload time due to it's realisticly fast reload mechanism.
  • Decreased RPM to 450.
• 1858 New Army:
  • Slight nerf in recoil because it being super OP right now, especially with fan firing.
• Mateba 6:
  • Nothing.
    • Because it's an Autorevolver, It should hold the fastest RPM, Double Action revolvers normally fire at 200 RPM, but I don't want to ruin the other revolvers.
• Redhawk 44:
  • Decreased RPM to 350.
• Judge:
  • When using Flechette, Pellet spread slightly increased due to extra pellet count. (Test Place)
  • When using Birdshot, Pellet spread is increased.
  • Remove Slugs and replace it with .45 Long Colt for more balanced stats.
• Executioner:
  • Nothing.
• Serbu Shotgun:
  • Small pellet spread buff because the Sawed Off and SAIGA are better.
  • Small close range damage buff at close range.
  • Recolor this gun, It's ugly right now.
• SFG 50:
  • Slight reload buff to make it more viable, since the BFG and SFG are the worst weapons in the game actually.
• Sawed Off:
  • Nothing.
• SAIGA-12U:
  • Nothing.
• Obrez:
  • Remove random RNG choke/spread.
    • It has enough drawbacks already, why does RNG spread exist?

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New secondary suggestions:

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CZ-75

Stats:

A 12-rounder pistol that has high damage for a 9mm pistol, Lower than average magazine size for a 9mm pistol.

Category:	Pistol
Country of origin:	Czechoslovakia
Damage:	38-29
Damage falloff range:	50-95 studs
Headshot multiplier:	(x1.50) 57-43.5
Bodyshot multiplier:	(x1.20) 45.6-34.8
Fire rate:	780 RPM
Magazine size:	12
Ammo reserve:	108
Bullet type:	9x19mm
Reload time:	2.0 seconds
Empty reload time:	2.1 seconds
Default fire mode:	Semi
Fire modes:	Semi
Muzzle velocity:	1,800 studs/s
Penetration depth:	0.5 studs
Weapon walkspeed:	15.0 studs/s

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USP .45

Stats:

A .45 ACP pistol with 10 round magazine, High damage like the other 2 .45 ACP pistols, Lower fire rate than the other 2, but makes up for it's lower recoil.

Category:	Pistol
Country of origin:	Germany
Damage:	50-28
Damage falloff range:	15-80 studs
Headshot multiplier:	(x1.40) 70-39.2
Bodyshot multiplier:	(x1.10) 55-30.8
Fire rate:	600 RPM
Magazine size:	10
Ammo reserve:	50
Bullet type:	.45 ACP
Reload time:	2.6 seconds
Empty reload time:	2.8 seconds
Default fire mode:	Semi
Fire modes:	Semi
Muzzle velocity:	1,650 studs/s
Penetration depth:	0.5 studs
Weapon walkspeed:	15.0 studs/s

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Makarov PM

Stats:

A classic pistol from the well known Roblox game: Apocalypse Rising, 8 round magazine with a small bullet, Deals low damage but has very low recoil.

Category:	Pistol
Country of origin:	Russia / Soviet Union
Damage:	33-19
Damage falloff range:	40-80 studs
Headshot multiplier:	(x1.40) 46.2-26.6
Bodyshot multiplier:	(x1.10) 36.3-20.9
Fire rate:	750 RPM
Magazine size:	8
Ammo reserve:	64
Bullet type:	9x18 Makarov
Reload time:	2.1 seconds
Empty reload time:	2.3 seconds
Default fire mode:	Semi
Fire modes:	Semi
Muzzle velocity:	1,400 studs/s
Penetration depth:	0.5 studs
Weapon walkspeed:	15.0 studs/s

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Luger P08

Stats:

Classic WW2 German pistol, Decent damage, but very low fire rate due to it's mechanism, A higher movement speed to calculate for it's loss of fire rate.

Category:	Pistol
Country of origin:	Germany
Damage:	36-27
Damage falloff range:	60-100 studs
Headshot multiplier:	(x1.50) 54-40.5
Bodyshot multiplier:	(x1.10) 39.6-29.7
Fire rate:	116 RPM
Magazine size:	8
Ammo reserve:	72
Bullet type:	9x19mm
Reload time:	2.4 seconds
Empty reload time:	2.7 seconds
Default fire mode:	Semi
Fire modes:	Semi
Muzzle velocity:	1,100 studs/s
Penetration depth:	0.5 studs
Weapon walkspeed:	15.5 studs/s

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M11

Stats:

Also known as the P228, Decent pistol with good damage and a good bodyshot multiplier.

Category:	Pistol
Country of origin:	Germany / Switzerland
Damage:	40-25
Damage falloff range:	50-95 studs
Headshot multiplier:	(x1.50) 60-37.5
Bodyshot multiplier:	(x1.20) 48-30
Fire rate:	780 RPM
Magazine size:	13
Ammo reserve:	104
Bullet type:	9x19mm
Reload time:	2.0 seconds
Empty reload time:	2.1 seconds
Default fire mode:	Semi
Fire modes:	Semi
Muzzle velocity:	1,800 studs/s
Penetration depth:	0.5 studs
Weapon walkspeed:	15.0 studs/s

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CZ-75 Auto

Stats:

Automatic version of the CZ-75 pistol, Good fire rate for a machine pistol, low damage, average recoil, low magazine count, but good reload speed and damage range.

Category:	Machine Pistol
Country of origin:	Czechoslovakia
Damage:	31-19
Damage falloff range:	25-60 studs
Headshot multiplier:	(x1.40) 43.4-26.6
Bodyshot multiplier:	(x1.00) 31-19
Fire rate:	1000 RPM
Magazine size:	12
Ammo reserve:	72
Bullet type:	9x19mm
Reload time:	2.6 seconds
Empty reload time:	2.7 seconds
Default fire mode:	Auto
Fire modes:	Auto
Muzzle velocity:	1,800 studs/s
Penetration depth:	0.5 studs
Weapon walkspeed:	14.5 studs/s

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CBJ-MS

Stats:

A SMG with lower fire rate, Stable recoil and damage, remains lightweight and easy to use.

Category:	Machine Pistol
Country of origin:	Sweden
Damage:	36-21
Damage falloff range:	32-70 studs
Headshot multiplier:	(x1.40) 50.4-29.4
Bodyshot multiplier:	(x1.00) 36-21
Fire rate:	700 RPM
Magazine size:	20
Ammo reserve:	60
Bullet type:	6.5x25mm CBJ
Reload time:	2.6 seconds
Empty reload time:	3.0 seconds
Default fire mode:	Auto
Fire modes:	Auto
Muzzle velocity:	1,800 studs/s
Penetration depth:	0.75 studs
Weapon walkspeed:	15 studs/s

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PP-2000

Stats:

Interesting machine pistol that can be considered a PDW aswell, Decent fire rate, recoil and damage while remaining fast to reload, Good muzzle velocity.

Category:	Machine Pistol
Country of origin:	Russia
Damage:	36-21
Damage falloff range:	32-70 studs
Headshot multiplier:	(x1.40) 50.4-29.4
Bodyshot multiplier:	(x1.00) 36-21
Fire rate:	800 RPM
Magazine size:	20
Ammo reserve:	60
Bullet type:	9x19mm
Reload time:	2.2 seconds
Empty reload time:	2.7 seconds
Default fire mode:	Auto
Fire modes:	Auto
Muzzle velocity:	2,000 studs/s
Penetration depth:	0.5 studs
Weapon walkspeed:	15 studs/s

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Škorpion vz. 61

Stats:

Well known machine pistol, Has a good damage falloff range and fire rate, but is not good for muzzle velocity.

Category:	Machine Pistol
Country of origin:	Czechoslovakia
Damage:	36-19
Damage falloff range:	32-70 studs
Headshot multiplier:	(x1.40) 50.4-29.4
Bodyshot multiplier:	(x1.00) 36-19
Fire rate:	850 RPM
Magazine size:	20
Ammo reserve:	60
Bullet type:	.32 ACP
Reload time:	2.2 seconds
Empty reload time:	2.7 seconds
Default fire mode:	Auto
Fire modes:	Auto
Muzzle velocity:	1,500 studs/s
Penetration depth:	0.5 studs
Weapon walkspeed:	15 studs/s

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Colt Python

Stats:

A well known revolver, Lower damage but better muzzle velocity due to a long barrel.

Category:	Revolver
Country of origin:	United States
Damage:	52-33
Damage falloff range:	70-100 studs
Headshot multiplier:	(x2.50) 130-82.5
Bodyshot multiplier:	(x1.40) 72.8-46.2
Fire rate:	400 RPM
Magazine size:	6
Ammo reserve:	42
Bullet type:	.357 Magnum
Reload time:	3.6 seconds
Empty reload time:	3.6 seconds
Default fire mode:	Semi
Fire modes:	Semi
Muzzle velocity:	2,000 studs/s
Penetration depth:	1.0 studs
Weapon walkspeed:	14 studs/s

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Model 500

Stats:

Extremely powerful revolver, This revolver deserves to 1-hit headshot at all ranges, but at the cost of a low fire rate, long reload and heavy recoil.

Category:	Revolver
Country of origin:	United States
Damage:	90-48
Damage falloff range:	40-80 studs
Headshot multiplier:	(x2.50) 225-120
Bodyshot multiplier:	(x1.40) 126-67.2
Fire rate:	200 RPM
Magazine size:	5
Ammo reserve:	20
Bullet type:	.500 S&W Magnum
Reload time:	4.2 seconds
Empty reload time:	4.2 seconds
Default fire mode:	Semi
Fire modes:	Semi
Muzzle velocity:	2,000 studs/s
Penetration depth:	2.0 studs
Weapon walkspeed:	13 studs/s

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OTs-38

Stats:

Revolver with an intergrated suppressor, Low damage but makes up for it's silence, Shooting the body or head is still powerful.

Category:	Revolver
Country of origin:	Russia
Damage:	48-25
Damage falloff range:	45-70 studs
Headshot multiplier:	(x2.50) 120-62.5
Bodyshot multiplier:	(x1.40) 67.2-35
Fire rate:	400 RPM
Magazine size:	5
Ammo reserve:	40
Bullet type:	7.62x42 mm SP-4
Reload time:	3.6 seconds
Empty reload time:	3.6 seconds
Default fire mode:	Semi
Fire modes:	Semi
Muzzle velocity:	1,250 studs/s
Penetration depth:	1.0 studs
Weapon walkspeed:	15 studs/s

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Alright, that's it.
I'm done, This took me hours to type all down.

CamaroKidBB Oh, so it's like reddit now.

Also...

semaphorism Where do I earn this reputation?

EDIT: Found out it's the like button, Apparently I need atleast 3 liked posts to bypass that.

They can't get rid of me from the forums.

The 5th one!

Unfortunately due to the old forums being gone, The other 4 are gone too, But I will revisit a few suggestions that need more attention.

(This topic series is about minor suggestions that I come up that can improve Phantom Forces that do not need a full topic)

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Extra VIP server commands.

• /changestats <weapon>:<module>:<integer>
  • Allows you to change the stats of a weapon, Resets when the VIP server closes.
  • Example: /changestats FAL 50.00:MIN_DAMAGE:100 would change the FAL 50.00's min damage to 100.
• /resetstats <weapon>
  • Resets the stats to default on a specific weapon.
• /admin <player>
  • Allows a player to use most server commands like the VIP server owner can.
• /unadmin <player>
  • Demotes that player that decides to abuse your VIP server commands, Eugh...
• /randomloadout
  • Gives you a random primary, secondary and melee with random attachments.
• /sethealth <number>
  • Changes the max health of everyone in the server.
• /freezetime
  • Freezes the round timer.

When someone starts a votekick, A text opens where the player has to write the reason of the votekick.

• Would make votekicks less random.
• There should also be a message saying that if votekicks are abused, the user would get chatbanned.
• Everyone can read the reason.

When playing Gun Game, The Golden ZIP is required to win a game.

• Melee shouldn't be used to win the game on the last weapon.
  • Abused alot by people who are too lazy to use the Golden ZIP.

CTAR Barrel should rename all TAR-21 names to CTAR-21!

• There are several "TAR-21" names left untouched while it should be CTAR-21.
  • Examples are the Death UI, It still says you are killed by a TAR-21.
  • Killfeed
  • Weapon Loadout UI.

When the Glock Stock is equipped on the Glock 17 or 18, The weapon name shouldn't be renamed to "G Stock"

• Why is that happening?

Update the colors and some of the models of the 3rd person weapons.

• Most of the 3rd person models still use the blue-black old color.
• Remington 700 is still green.
• SL-8 is simply a G36 model made white.
• HK416 is simply a M4A1.
• The Glocks have stocks equipped even when they don't have it.
• VSS Vintorez has a scope equipped even when it isn't equipped.

Update the weapon background UI.

• All weapons are still using the old colors.
• The new weapons are missing while there is clearly space left for them.

Add an exclusive scope attachment to the MSG90 and Henry 45-70.

• So many weapons are getting exclusive scope attachments, but the MSG90 not?
  • The Hensoldt ZF 6x42 would be perfect, It's the scope that the PSG-1 uses.
• The MSG90 is more of a semi auto sniper, why shouldn't it have a scope?
• Same thing to Henry 45-70, It could use the Leopuld scope that the Steyr Scout has.

The Frying Pan should make the TF2 pan hit sound.

• PWOONNGG!!!

CamaroKidBB said in [Game] The last who replies wins:

The bot’s back?

oh no.

THE BOT’S BACK. THIS IS WORSE THAN WW3.

The evil bot was transfered too.
How could this happen.

I just realized liking posts got removed too.

Raspy_Pi said in Minor suggestion list by Darkman #5:

VIP server admins is a thing that is considered. Likely It would be per-session though.

Of course.

Raspy_Pi said in Minor suggestion list by Darkman #5:

Random loadout is possible. Not sure exactly why you would want it though.

For fun, Gives you an entire random loadout that you can play with for the duration of your life until your enemy kills you in a VIP server.

mr404error2 It is a meta, people just don't know it ;)

Everyone says it's S tier.

FAL 50.00

Audi_t Why u do this.

The M45A1 was supposed to be Hypo's dev-only pistol.

B_olts Hehehehehehe.

heck_god Drum here.

I was just too lazy to screenshot it, I made it instantly afterwards.

AA-12

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Apollo said in Some Suggestions For the Visuals and Immersion of Phantom Forces:

Grenade Sounds and Visuals
Now for whatever reason this idea was scrapped years ago in the CTE. I feel like I remember grenade audio similar to this being added into the main game but for whatever reason it was removed later on.
Credit to Darkman_Bree for this old footage
https://youtu.be/wRKVqeUV3J0?t=293
For some reason this was scrapped?

I don't know why this was scrapped, I would've loved this even though I hate grenades.

Apollo said in Some Suggestions For the Visuals and Immersion of Phantom Forces:

Remake Some of the Gun Shots
So, most of the guns in PF sound pretty decent as we all know, however, some of them are absolute garbage! Like the AK47, AK74, and AKM. They're too high pitched and short, they need to sound more powerful with a bit of reverb.
Another weapon that needs a gunshot remake is the M107. Because, if you listen to it, the sound of the bolt getting slung back and forth in the gun is just as loud, if not louder than the sound of the gunshot itself. And even the, the gunshot isn't really that good in the first place, it suffers a similar fate as the AKs, very high pitched sounds on a powerful gun do not mix, but at least the M107 has a little bit of reverb and echo to make it sound better, but still! Why not try to replicate the sound the M107 makes IRL? It sounds so much better anyway.
I also made a video for this post to represent some of the auditory and visual changes that could be made to improve the overall immersion of the game, here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVIeGyMlkHs

I agree some weapons need better gun sounds, I find the M107 and AK47's fine, I can list some of them which really need a sound revamp:

• SCAR SSR: For a DMR, it sounds really weak, Just give it the SCAR HAMR's sound but lower pitched like in the CTE.
• MSG90: It just reuses the AG-3's firing sounds, Weak for a DMR.
• SPAS-12: This sound is really awful, I hate hearing it while I use it, It's just a hammer hitting a wooden table, Stylis please change it as it's my favorite shotgun, I will even accept if it reuses GTA Vice City's SPAS-12 sounds.
• AK74: Different prespective than saying "the AK sounds are bad", I'm actually gonna say that it's reusing AK47's sounds despite having a lighter bullet, the RPK74 has a pitched up sound, why not the AK74?
• AK12C: aka the AK15K, Larger bullet, but still uses the AK12 sounds.
• Honey Badger: I don't know what's up with that, but I really hate hearing that gunfire sound.