When the LMG survey comes back, the guns that are considered most OP should be greyed out in the main game using a hotfix
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Only temporarily, until they get balanced, but a lot of these guns are too OP to let anyone use in the main game ATM
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yea no. they wont do that, they could further reduce handling, or reduce the aiming speed for loads of attachments (like my poor hk417 did)
i wish tho
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None of the LMGs are OP. The problem is not the game but rather the community, given the general playstyle on PC is to just rush into CQC and mow down everything unless it's a map like desert storm or mirage where snipers can actually come into play.
Also letting the community rebalance weapons is a horrid idea that should never be done given the community doesn't KNOW how to rebalance weapons.
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KommandoKazumi If LMGs are nerfed, the hell are you going to assist your team?
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M4 SOPMOD II idk, ask the OP that since they are asking for nerfs. Im just opposed to nerfing them period.
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KommandoKazumi So, basically what you are saying is that the class isn't OP; the game just happens to be set up to make them OP (Let's ignore the fact that the only nerf LMGs have is -2 or less movement speed). And also that it is better to let people who don't play the game balance weapons than people who actually do.
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This won't happen and let alone it probably wouldn't be able too as removing guns breaks a lot of things. Removing anything that exists in your data breaks things in general. The survey was designed to get a community idea of what the community thinks what gun is OPs. The keyword there is community. This doesn't mean changes are coming. It only means some will be considered in the future because of community input. Nothing is going to be removed or 'greyed out' just changes will be coming if any.
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Wingz Oh, that makes more sense given the community tends to jump off the deep end in terms of nerfs/rebalances only to then complain once they get what the vocal minority wanted.
An example of that being Bad Business. Unironically.
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KommandoKazumi no one lmg is op and that is the mg3kws but once 100 rd mag was added god high round tore the other team apart even aa12 users are so annoying cus of the 20rd mad but what if the 20rd mag was on the aa12 on default it would lead to it being op its kinda op but not the only op shotguns in the game is the ks-23m and stevens db or aa12 one timewhen i was playing pf i just when on a rampage with a stevens db at rank 34 or rank33 imangine if noobs got ahold if this aa12 at rank 1 i would just quit pf
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X95 SMG Okay but how are shotguns related to this...? Also, correction, not a single gun is overpowered, all guns are situational to some extent.
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KommandoKazumi A gun is overpowered if it makes another gun completely useless. Eg. the RPK-74 outperforms the AK-74 in every way, including having the same reload speed, and the AK-74s only advantage is two movement speed. The RPK-74 is therefore OP
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Glock 20 That literally makes zero sense given something is overpowered when it is the only item/gun you need to win the game with minimal effort or input.
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KommandoKazumi sure, LSW with .223 conversion, HAMR, HBAR, M60, and Colt LMG.
The only disadvantages with the current guns has to do with the fact that you have to run behind cover to do a tactical reload, and that you should run with your secondary.
Honestly, I am very happy with most of the upcoming changes. The M60 should see a nerf to minimum damage that is negated with the upcoming body multi, the Colt should have much shorter 3sk range (perhaps even becoming a universal 4sk gun) and the LSW should loose the torso multi — but otherwise the class’ll be fine after the changes come about
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Glock 20 Isn't the LSW still just "another AR" anyways? It's quite painful to use without .223 Rem which negates the singular purpose of suppression... Just making it an L86 with a hilariously extended mag for 50 rounds.
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Glock 20 said in When the LMG survey comes back, the guns that are considered most OP should be greyed out in the main game using a hotfix:
KommandoKazumi A gun is overpowered if it makes another gun completely useless. Eg. the RPK-74 outperforms the AK-74 in every way, including having the same reload speed, and the AK-74s only advantage is two movement speed. The RPK-74 is therefore OP
If they go along with the LMG survey (Which they probably will) then what you're saying means nothing
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dany47474747 also this, yea. The LMG survey aims to make the LMGs that show up as "just another AR" into actual LMGs to some extent and gather community input on the rebalances, even if some change seem awful or completely unwarranted.
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KommandoKazumi name one bad change that was presented in the survey
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Glock 20 damage nerfs on M60, suppression nerfs across the board that don't seem necessary (afaik one gun with .9 suppression gets it dropped to .7 for some reason) to name a few from memory, since I already filled out the form and cannot view it again.
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KommandoKazumi is the MG3Kws broken since look the stevens db is op at cqc cus of the damage or maybe not?. But some guns might be Op But AA12 got nerfed But its My own opinion Do you Even try to understand Anything at All Cus Basicly I would Call you Dumb or Stupid At This Point.But Also Mg3Kws is OP but Fuck no that you say its not Op Oscar Made a Video About The 100 Rd Box Mag On The Mg3Kws
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